Biggies back with bonuses, startups suffer
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Benny Thomas
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Bangalore: With the economy on the path to recovery, it's raining jobs at major tech firms. However, this is having an adverse effect on startups, who are facing the challenge of getting right candidates as well as retaining them. Over the past year, startups were able to cash in on the slump in the job market but things are not looking rosy now. "Last year, we were able to recruit six people as the markets were down. But now we are unable to select a single candidates with good skill sets for the 10 openings we have," says Puneet Bindlish, CEO of Infogile.

India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans to hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in the fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000 campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched about 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by May-June 2010.
Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now fear that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People are leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which as a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations, Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will get more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility, which will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges. "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies feels that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they hire lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the coming months.
Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who are joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without worrying about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time the company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and also has some prospects in Anna University.

India's largest IT exporter Tata Consultancy Services has announced plans to hire 8,300 trainees and around 3,000 laterals or experienced persons in the fourth quarter of this fiscal. IT major Infosys, which will exceed its hiring target of 25,000 for the current fiscal year, has made some 20,000 campus offers for fiscal 2009-10. The company has already dispatched about 18,000 offer letters to prospective employees. Wipro's hiring plans for fiscal 2009-10 are also on track, with 8,500 people to be recruited by May-June 2010.
Many startups similar to Infogile, who hired during the slowdown, now fear that their current employees may quit and join the large firms. "People are leaving startups to join the large firms as they pay good salaries, which as a startup we cannot afford," says Bindlish. Speaking of compensations, Satkam Divya CEO of Rupeetalk feels that people should not join a startup just for the monetary benefit. "By working in a startup, a person will get more responsibilities, learn newer things and enjoy better visibility, which will pay off in the long run," says Divya.
Divya also hired eight people in the mid management level during the slowdown, but now just like Bindlish even he is facing the challenges. "Though, we had been hiring last year as it was easy to find the right talent, now we are going slow on recruitments," says Divya. Despite the challenges in the job market, Sudarshan HS, CEO of Onze Technologies feels that startups are independent of the overall job market, because they hire lesser number of people. "We may have to face some issues, but not very serious problems," says Sudarshan, who plans to hire 10-15 people in the coming months.
Adhil Shetty, Founder and CEO, BankBazaar.com believes that people, who are joining startups, join just because they want to work in a startup environment. "Last year, we hired from several B-schools and these were people who were keenly interested to work only in a startup without worrying about the monetary benefits," says Shetty. According to him, this time the company has already received one summer recruit from IIM-Bangalore and also has some prospects in Anna University.
Reader's comments(32)
1: During difficult times the startups tried to
extract every bit out of it's employees by
paying less, working for long hours and
weekends and then cutting hard working
people's salaries. These companies failed to
realize that startups happen only if you
share equity with your employees. They kept
all the equities with them and now they
expect talented people to stay back or come
to them to do labour work, isin't that funny?
Startup's are good only when they make people
realize that you are a part of the company
and you will gain if the company gains. Year
2008-2009 saw these startups dictating what
they will pay and what working hours are
yours and what pays you will recieve, so they
are bound to suffer now.
Posted by: Startupking - 05 Feb, 2010
2: many time salary is not the reason to quit
the current organization ,organization
behavior toward there employee change the
thinking. I am working in organization where
there are good project and improve my skill
at very high level which i want ,but the way
organization treating there employee making
my mind set that i am landed at wrong
place.Now i am seriously looking for good
employer and not who pay me good .
Posted by: Deeno - 04 Feb, 2010
3: As it is rightly said by many of you "love
your job and not the your company". With the
market situation improving people are finding
better paying jobs. So, the blood sucking
biggies who have tortured their employees are
getting it back. Tech - Giants are going to
understand the meaning of experienced
employee very soon.
Posted by: banti - 04 Feb, 2010
5: Well its a good thing here that are atleast
having some to say "Love your job and not
your company" Its quite obvious once you
start loving your job in a company, you will
ultimately contribute to the company,
Viceversa you love your company, which does
101 things, in which you do a part of their
business...Imagine where you stand.
Biggies are back all of us are happy, Hope the same biggies dont bang on us..Hope all is Well
GISTechhie
Biggies are back all of us are happy, Hope the same biggies dont bang on us..Hope all is Well
GISTechhie
Posted by: GISTechhie - 04 Feb, 2010
6: Wel I gess. Dys Articler means smhow thr is a
job fr everyOne + One. is it? Coz if u luk at
the number of engineers passing out every
year. n dys tym its a bonus,coz 2008/09
candidates din get placed
So plz stop sayin that der r more jobs n less people.
*And one more thing. A fresher wil alwez remain a fresher, until he/she gets a job to becum experienced. so its raw talent everywhr, but who wants to put in efforts and give dem a chance.
And taht stands fr one n all: Wel Established Companies and Start-ups
tel me if u dont agree
So plz stop sayin that der r more jobs n less people.
*And one more thing. A fresher wil alwez remain a fresher, until he/she gets a job to becum experienced. so its raw talent everywhr, but who wants to put in efforts and give dem a chance.
And taht stands fr one n all: Wel Established Companies and Start-ups
tel me if u dont agree
Posted by: Labham - 04 Feb, 2010
7: Kabhi ham upar to kabhi aap... this is quite
right as there was a time when the employees
were kikked out and now what they are kikking
isn't it give and take and right also as
people should see there interest
Posted by: Shashwat - 03 Feb, 2010
8: People well leave and join, startup company
should focus on practice and lot of engineers
are still available in market if we want to
hire. Big companys have promised and they
have not hired for last one year. what will
happen to engineers of this year. they will
join startup company. startup company should
focus on continues training and developing
team with out any fear to people leaving the
company it is process driven and not one or
two employee who make the organization.
Posted by: M R Nagaraj - 03 Feb, 2010
9: "Love your job and not the company" - The
time has come with a proof now.
Posted by: Dhruv Patel - 03 Feb, 2010

10:how it possible without loving company,
loving our job? job is part of company.
Vishwanath replied to: Dhruv Patel
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

11: I support Dhruv. Never love your company!Just
love your job!
Viswa, Job is part of Company and you should love that part only not the other parts.
Cheers!
Abinash
Viswa, Job is part of Company and you should love that part only not the other parts.
Cheers!
Abinash
Abinash replied to: Vishwanath
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

12: hy, what you mean? we shuld respect company
too.
vishwa replied to: Abinash
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

13: There is saying "Love your job and not the
company, bcoz who knows when will the company
stops loving you". Hey vishwa, no company
loves any employee as ur parents do. Every
company needs service from the employee for
which ur paid for... thats the
professional/business aura is all about.
vinod replied to: vishwa
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

14:Untill company stops love you, you will get
source to earn, otherwise you will be in the
line of job seekers. Atleast with that
concern required to love it.
vishwa replied to: vinod
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

15: Don't think company is yours, You are for
the company as long as you are giving
efficient/effective results. The moment you
are short by numbers, expect a pink slip
coming your way...
Vikas replied to: vishwa
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

16: hello vishwa, kya hai na. tumhe humesha demo
dena padta hai.
let's say you love your company (without knowing if your company loves you or not, one sided love story). and someday your company fires you, what will you do that day.question
forget firing, lets say company does not give you proper hike and promotions... what will you do.. another question... still love your company. huh
wherever you are, you are acknowledged for your skill and not for your legacy. In the time of recession many talented people were fired for big MNCs, not because the companies were in losses but because companies did not want their profit margin to dip. many big firms have made immense benefit by recruiting freshers at as low amounts as 5k per month. Like Saytam gave a high projection about itself to extract lot of money market, during recession many MNCs have made stories about their losses or at least falsely projected their losses so that no one asks for hike.
Whatever me and the other folks are talking, we have learned this from our companies only.
This is my perception, understanding it is left upto you OR
you can still keeping loving your company.
let's say you love your company (without knowing if your company loves you or not, one sided love story). and someday your company fires you, what will you do that day.question
forget firing, lets say company does not give you proper hike and promotions... what will you do.. another question... still love your company. huh
wherever you are, you are acknowledged for your skill and not for your legacy. In the time of recession many talented people were fired for big MNCs, not because the companies were in losses but because companies did not want their profit margin to dip. many big firms have made immense benefit by recruiting freshers at as low amounts as 5k per month. Like Saytam gave a high projection about itself to extract lot of money market, during recession many MNCs have made stories about their losses or at least falsely projected their losses so that no one asks for hike.
Whatever me and the other folks are talking, we have learned this from our companies only.
This is my perception, understanding it is left upto you OR
you can still keeping loving your company.
banti replied to: vishwa
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010
17: Hey Now its candidate Turn.Over 80% small
companies are just making fool of candidates
with false commitment.They should learn from
this :)
Even i also Joined a small company and not paid salary from last 3 month..and now looking for some good Company in .net
Hope every thing will be on right track
Enjoy :)
Even i also Joined a small company and not paid salary from last 3 month..and now looking for some good Company in .net
Hope every thing will be on right track
Enjoy :)
Posted by: Ranjeet Kumar - 03 Feb, 2010

18:good luck in finding a new and better
job...Ranjeet Kumar
puneeth replied to: Ranjeet Kumar
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010
19: One should always look at the kind of work
they get to do at the start up companies and
also the recognition for the Good work
demonstrated . In start up companies you get
to work on end to end Product Development
which you don't get at companies like TCS,
IBM or Infosys.In companies like TCS, you can
expect only a coding/programming or working
on one Module. Also One should join a start
up who has passion to work in challenging
work environment, and who has the courage to
meet the undefined challenges and Risks.
Posted by: Prashant - 03 Feb, 2010
20: It's not about big companies and start ups.
Start ups don't normally survive recession
and biggies have enough cash reserve to serve
and they get into cost cutting mode.
Simplest way to decide on job is to find a job you like and make sure your pocket is full.
Simplest way to decide on job is to find a job you like and make sure your pocket is full.
Posted by: vishvesh - 03 Feb, 2010

21:Hi Dear Let me remind you that today's
Infosys started in aroom with 7 Software
Engineers!
Startups survive not because of only funds but with talent pool.
There is great wording " Success can be possible with a group of few committed, talented genuine individuals"
Startups survive not because of only funds but with talent pool.
There is great wording " Success can be possible with a group of few committed, talented genuine individuals"
Phani Kumar replied to: vishvesh
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010
22: Biggies may be looking to cash on the share
price game... however, a startup would
continue to shine if they focus on getting
the people who can build career than build
their pockets... I am sure Startups find the
way to "share" than offering "Job" for the
best brains who are positive to grow
something from scratch....
Jai Ho! Startups!
Regards,
Reddy GR - Husys
Jai Ho! Startups!
Regards,
Reddy GR - Husys
Posted by: gr Reddy - Husys - 03 Feb, 2010
23: Hi All,
I am seeing many of the companies are hiring these time,but i am not understanding the firms liek Infy,TCS and Wipro are preferring to consultants (Subcontractors) ..
What is the necessity of them here..initially they are saying Contract to hire but i don't think so that is the actually the case.
Please clarify if any body know this.
Thanks,
Gangadhar
I am seeing many of the companies are hiring these time,but i am not understanding the firms liek Infy,TCS and Wipro are preferring to consultants (Subcontractors) ..
What is the necessity of them here..initially they are saying Contract to hire but i don't think so that is the actually the case.
Please clarify if any body know this.
Thanks,
Gangadhar
Posted by: Gangadhar - 03 Feb, 2010

24:I hope they don't hire and kick out people
again..
girish replied to: Gangadhar
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

26: Oh no no ....this could happen again, any
time. We have seen this many a times in the
past. I just don't believe those HR guys any
more, they lie left right and centre.
A Chakraborty replied to: girish
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

27: They do that every time. Companies like Infy,
CTS, TCS, IBM has already shown their real
faces during recession.
With contract employees it is much easier to hire and fire.
With contract employees it is much easier to hire and fire.
Jebarson replied to: girish
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

28: Its not like Small Companies wont fire. If
there is a problem, these guys will fire
first comparing with the big companies. Our
only goal has to become stronger in technical
area
Jothi replied to: Jebarson
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

29: The big companies are unable to retain the
employees like infy...
Raju replied to: Jebarson
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

30: big or small doesnt matter.......... i need
job thats it...........just fed up by this
job searching.....money is nt an issue....i
want to be in cmpany and learn the
things..........
sahana replied to: Raju
post - 03 Feb, 2010
post - 03 Feb, 2010

31:Sahana,
Just align ur thoughts to ur name :) . Be patient. Learining hardly happens due to company. It happens by ur own. Especially in IT, keep coding and up to date in ur technologies. And rest will follow u :) GL.
Just align ur thoughts to ur name :) . Be patient. Learining hardly happens due to company. It happens by ur own. Especially in IT, keep coding and up to date in ur technologies. And rest will follow u :) GL.
Kaushal replied to: sahana
post - 04 Feb, 2010
post - 04 Feb, 2010

32: I am an entrepreneur and running a start-up.
I hired guys during recession and am paying
them salary that they would get in an M.N.C
id they would have joined there during good
times.
I provided an environment where they could learn. We have products in line to come out in the market. I have seen my employees reading all through the internet and applying at every possible place for jobs. Even though they have not got a job right now from any other place - they seem to be threatening me with quitting.
Now, is this any good for anybody - They have worked at an average of 24 hours per week for the last 1 year - with flexible work timings and weekends off.
I feel that any kind of threat should be treated with self-discipline and rules which should stand ground. I have a straight forward policy of creating a database of all the employees who ever left the company - and not to take them back in the future ever again. Only the ones who stay with the company and make a career here while in a mutually beneficial relationship shall enjoy the fruits of a successful company.
Equity sharing is also an option in my company - but one has to really work hard for that - maybe 48 hours a week and show some exceptional output. Equity sharing is not for every employee.
Every Start-up is different and have different policies and goals. But I really want to take this company to have employee policies which benefit the ones who respect the company. The goal is to create a good environment for development of talent in the committed individuals. I am proud that my company has achieved it's goals so far.
I provided an environment where they could learn. We have products in line to come out in the market. I have seen my employees reading all through the internet and applying at every possible place for jobs. Even though they have not got a job right now from any other place - they seem to be threatening me with quitting.
Now, is this any good for anybody - They have worked at an average of 24 hours per week for the last 1 year - with flexible work timings and weekends off.
I feel that any kind of threat should be treated with self-discipline and rules which should stand ground. I have a straight forward policy of creating a database of all the employees who ever left the company - and not to take them back in the future ever again. Only the ones who stay with the company and make a career here while in a mutually beneficial relationship shall enjoy the fruits of a successful company.
Equity sharing is also an option in my company - but one has to really work hard for that - maybe 48 hours a week and show some exceptional output. Equity sharing is not for every employee.
Every Start-up is different and have different policies and goals. But I really want to take this company to have employee policies which benefit the ones who respect the company. The goal is to create a good environment for development of talent in the committed individuals. I am proud that my company has achieved it's goals so far.
Sagar Yadav replied to: Kaushal
post - 07 Feb, 2010
post - 07 Feb, 2010
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